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22/8/2015

33 Comments

Mike Ash

22/8/2015 11:44:42 am

Welcome to the new page for submitting questions regarding family history.

Dorothy Gurd

28/8/2015 09:19:04 pm

In the summer of 2015 Susan Robinson left ths message on the 'old' village History Blog

Hello, I am trying to find information regarding my ancestors. Mary Ann WAGG, daughter of William WAGG and Ann MUSSELWHITE who married William RANDALL, they are my great great grandparents.

In the 1841 census Mary Ann age 5 is living with her mother Ann WAGG (MUSSELWHITE) age 27 and a William WAGG age 70. Could this William be Mary Ann’s father? I believe that this William born in 1771 was previously married to Elizabeth ? and she died in 1803, he then married Mary EMM in 1804 and she died in 1817.

Also on the 1841 census there is a William age 40 and Sophia WAGG in Bishopstone. I have found birth information on line that shows a William Wagg born 1800 but do not know who the parents are. I am wondering if he was the son of William and Elizabeth?.

I found a George WAGG born in 1793 to William WAGG and Elizabeth, could this William be the same William that is shown in the 1841 census with Mary Ann age 5? Could he and the William born in 1810 be brothers?

I believe William and Ann WAGG (MUSSELWHITE) also had a son called George born in 1838. I can't find the other George born in 1793 on the 1841 census. If William was married to Elizabeth ?, Mary EMM and Ann MUSSELWHITE, could William and Elizabeth’s son George have died and William and Ann MUSSELWHITE named their son George?

John WAGG son of William and Ann MUSSELWHITE was baptised on 3 October 1841 and the record states that his father was William WAGG a labourer. The 1841 census with Mary Ann age 5 was taken in April, so her father must have been living at that time.

A William WAGG died in 1844 age 77. Ann WAGG (MUSSELWHITE) married Henry STRATTON in 1845.

I know this all sounds confusing but am hoping that someone might have some knowledge of the WAGG family. Many thanks. Sue.

Dorothy Gurd

28/8/2015 09:31:59 pm

Hello Susan
Thank you for your message regarding the WAGG family. I hope the following will help. Some results confirm your own findings and there is extra data which might help clarify the family line.
Regards, Dot Gurd

Baptism at Broad Chalke John Wagg baptised 9.6 1723 son of Thomas

Baptisms at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone
Anstis Wagg baptised 18.1.1756 daughter of John and Elizabeth
Elizabeth Wagg baptised 27.3.1758 daughter of John and Elizabeth
John Wagg baptised 1.10.1759 son of John and Elizabeth
Thomas Wagg baptised 14.2.1762 son of John and Elizabeth
Mary Wagg baptised 12.2.1764 daughter of John and Elizabeth
George Wagg baptised 20.4.1766 son of John and Elizabeth
Sarah Wagg baptised 21.10.1768 daughter of John and Elizabeth
William Wagg baptised 1.12.1771 son of John and Elizabeth
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Marriage at Martin, Dorset 4.6.1792
William WAGG of Bishopstone and Elizabeth STAPLES

Their children
Baptism at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone
1. George Wagg baptised 4.8.1793 son of William and Elizabeth
Baptisms at Cranborne, Dorset
2. Jane Wagg baptised 3.7.1796 daughter of William and Elizabeth
3. Sarah Wagg baptised 25.12.1798 daughter of William and Elizabeth
4. William Wagg baptised 22.4.1800 son of William and Elizabeth
NOTE:
These babies below would fit between the children noted in the baptisms. There are no baptisms for them, but they might have been baptised privately at home if they were not expected to live. A later child, also named William, was baptised in 1800. As you know children were sometimes named after a sibling who had died.
I believe these to also be the children of William and Elizabeth There were no other Wagg families having children baptised in the parish at the time.
Burials at Cranborne, Dorset 2.10.1797
John Wagg a twin age 1 week & William Wagg, a twin, age 1 week

NOTE: Elizabeth Wagg (wife of William) died in December 1803 and was buried on 11 December 1803 at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone

William Wagg remarried to Mary EMM on 24.1.1804 at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone
Mary Wagg (of Throope, Bishopstone) died in May 1817 age 53 and was buried on 11.5.1817 at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone

3rd marriage of William Wagg
Marriage St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone 31.9.1836
William WAGG and Ann MUSSELL
Baptisms at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone
Marianne Wagg baptised 13.11.1836 daughter of William and Ann of Netton (Father's occupation - Labourer)
George Wagg baptised 23.9.1838 son of William and Ann of Netton (Father's occupation - Labourer)
Fanny Wagg baptised 5.1.1840 daughter of William and Ann of Netton (Father's occupation - Labourer)
John Wagg baptised 3.10.1841 son of William and Ann of Netton (Father's occupation - Labourer)

William Wagg died in October 1844 age 77 and was buried on 17.10.1844 at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone

Marriage of Ann Wagg - widow of William Wagg (senior)
Marriage 16.6.1845 at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone
Henry Stratton; Bach; Of Age; of Bishopstone; Occ-Labourer; Father - Henry Stratton
Ann Wagg; Wid; Of Age; of Bishopstone; Father John Musselwhite

NOTE: Ann Mussell was baptised on 24.4.1814 at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone daughter of John and Mary Mussell of Netton. Father's occupation - Labourer
(It appears that between Ann's birth and her second marriage her father John had changed the spelling of his name from Mussell to Musselwhite.
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The marriage of William Wagg (born 1800) son of William Wagg (born 1771) and Elizabeth (Staples)
William Wagg married Sophia PENNY on 30.9.1821 at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone
Baptisms at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone
Sarah Wagg baptised 13.1.1822 daughter of William and Sophia of Bishopstone Farm (Father's occupation - Labourer)
Eliza Wagg baptised 18.7.1824 daughter of William and Sophia of Netton (Father's occupation - Labourer)

In the 1841 census William and Sophia were together in Bishopstone.

The proof that William (1800) was the one who married Sophia is in the 1851 census
1851 Census Bishopstone, Wilts
Pitts
Wm Wagg; Head; 60; Carrier; born Bishopstone, Wilts
Sophia Wagg; Wife; 67; born Broad Chalke, Wilts

Sophia Wagg ('of Netton') died in July 1867 age 73 and was buried on 28.7.1867 at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone

William Wagg re-married in 1868
Marriage September Quarter of 1868 Registered: Wilton Registration District
William WAGG and Edna HIBBERD

1871 Census Bishopstone, Wilts
Pitts
Wm Wagg; Head; 70; Retired Carrier; born Blagdon, Dorset
Edna Wagg; Wife; 48; born Shapwick, Dorset

(note: Blagdon is a hamlet near Cranborne, Dorset, where William was baptised in 1800)

William Wagg ('of Croucheston') died in September 1880 age 80 and was buried on 8.9.1880 at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone

Mike Ash

18/9/2015 10:13:03 am

Further message from Sue Robinson

Hi
I am trying to find out if Maria MUSSELL, shown below, whether she migrated to Australia and married Thomas CASE. I am hoping that someone in Bishopstone might have some information regarding the family. I have added some information that I have located on various websites.

Name: Maria Mussel
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 8 Jan 1818
Baptism Place: Bishopstone By Salisbury,Wiltshire,England
Father: John Mussel
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number: 950237
Parents John Muzzlewhite Mussel, Mary Percy

Marriage 1 Oct 1838 Sydney, New South Wales, Australia to Thomas Case
Name: Thomas Case
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Muzzlewhite
Marriage Date: 1838
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1838

Thomas case died 8 April 1860 Gundaroo, New South Wales, Australia
Marriage Maria age 47 to John Hardwick 1865
Maria death age 73 11 Nov 1891 Gundaroo, New South Wales, Australia
Death John HARDWICK age 81 13 Nov 1899 Yass, New South Wales died

Many thanks Sue Robinson

Mike Ash (Reply from Dot Gurd)

18/9/2015 10:14:14 am

Hello Sue

Thank you for your letter.I have listed below some extra details for you on Maria Mussel and her family plus information on her parents baptisms etc. from the Bishopstone Parish Registers.

I have transcribed all the spellings below as they were written in the various Registers.

THE PARENTS OF MARIA MUSSEL: John MUSSEL married Mary PERCY on 13 June 1810 at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone. Their Witnesses at the wedding were: James Lodge and Mary Martin

Their children were as follows:

Baptisms at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone

Ann Mussel bapt. 24 Apr 1814 daughter of John and Mary (of Netton, Bishopstone)

James Mussel bapt 31.Mar 1816 son of John and Mary (of Netton, Bishopstone)

Maria Mussel bapt 8 Jan 1818 daughter of John and Mary (of Netton, Bishopstone)

Elizabeth Mussel bapt 26 Mar 1820 daughter of John and Mary (of Netton, Bishopstone)

Eliza Mussel bapt 20 Jan 1822 daughter of John and Mary (of Netton, Bishopstone

Harriot Mussel bapt 9 Feb 1824 daughter of John and Mary (of Netton, Bishopstone)

William Mussel bapt 29 Jan 1826 son of John and Mary (of Netton, Bishopstone)

Ellen Mussel bapt 25 May 1828 daughter of John and Mary (of Netton, Bishopstone)

Marianne Mussel bapt 6 June 1830 daughter of John and Mary (of Netton, Bishopstone)

Note: At each baptism, John Mussel's occupation was given as 'Labourer'

PROBABLE PARENTS AND SIBLING OF JOHN MUSSEL

Edward MUSEL married Sarah VINEY 1 Aug 1775 Broad Chalke, Wilts

Children of Edward and Sarah Mussell baptised at Bowerchalke, Wilts (Family Search - parish code C15219-1)

Mary Mussell bapt 29 Oct 1775

John Mussel bapt 29 Mar 1778

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PROBABLE LINEAGE OF MARY PERCY

Harry PEARCY married Ann WILLIS 10 Oct 1781 at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone

Witnesses at the marriage were: Joseph Read & Thomas Stevens

Baptisms of their children at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone (NOTE: differing spellings)

William Pearcy bapt 3 Feb 1782 son of Henry and Ann

James Percy bapt 15 Aug 1787 son of Henry and Ann

Alice Percy bapt 16 June 1790 daughter of Henry and Ann

Mary Pearcy bapt 20 Feb 1793 daughter of Henry and Ann

ANN WILLIS was baptised on 25 May 1753 at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone (daughter of John and Mary Willis)

Ann's parents and siblings

Marriage: 2 Aug 1736 at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone after Banns

John WILLIS Jnr. to Mary COOL

(John Willis was baptised 3 Mar 1716/17 son of John and Sarah Willis. Mary Cool was baptised 16 Nov 1716 daughter of William and Martha. Both baptisms were at St John the Baptist Church)

(Note: Between 1728 and 1749 the names of the mothers were rarely given in the Bishopstone Baptism Registers. This coincides with the change of Parish Priest in the village)

Baptisms of John and Mary's children at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone

Sarah Willis bapt 21 Dec 1736 daughter of John Jnr. (Private Baptism)

Sarah Willis bapt 6 Jan 1736/37 daughter of John Jnr. (Brought to Church)

John Willis bapt 20 Feb 1738/39 son of John

Mary Willis bapt 29 Mar 1740/41 daughter of John

Martha Willis bapt 11 Feb 1742/43 daughter of John

James Willis bapt 9 Oct 1745 son of John

William Willis bapt 23 June 1749 son of John

Ann Willis bapt 25 May 1753 daughter of John and Mary

Cornelius Willis bapt 7 Mar 1756 son of John and Mary

Hannah Willis bapt 12 Jul 1761 daughter of John and Mary

Although there is a large span in ages, there was not another John Willis having children in the village at that time. There was no other marriage for John Willis during that period. Several other village families had children over long periods. However, I cannot say for certain that these were all the children of John Willis and Mary Cool

Finally, you ask if Maria Mussel might have emigrated to Australia and married Thomas Case. However you then have a note of the marriage of Thomas Case to an Elizabeth Muzzlewhite. Is this an error and did you mean Maria Muzzlewhite? I can find no emigration record for Maria at present.

The name Mussel evolved into Musselwhite in the 1840s, but was always spelled with a double 's' not a double 'z'.

I hope this has helped a little.

Good luck with your search. Dot Gurd

Ingrid Lamberts

23/6/2016 11:10:12 pm

Hi - I'm not quite sure who I'm writing to here, the comments and reply system is getting me all confuzzled.

I did a lot of FH research several years ago but have let it slide for a while, partly because most of my research is stuck on the hard drive of a defunct computer (...) So what I'm going to say is off the top of my head only, but the Mussel, Musselwhite and Case families featured strongly in my research. I traced a number of residents of B'Stone emigrating to Australia in the 1830s, among them Maria Mussell and, if I recall correctly, a pair of cousins both named Thomas Case, one of whom may have already been married to her but they had a ceremony in Sydney upon arrival (I think they had their first child either in the way over or shortly after arrival - she was pregnant on the voyage anyway, ick!) There was an Elizabeth Mussell/Mussellwhite involved too - perhaps Maria's sister? - who I believe married the other Thomas Case, and it is this couple I descend from. (I think that's right - can't imagine why anyone would one would find this confusing... ) They are the ones who settled around Queanbeyan, NSW (and Gundaroo etc) and there are still descendents around (one of the couples had I think 15 children, most of whom lived to adulthood and kept the line running). My direct line wasn't among this lot, but I happen to live in Canberra, which is literally next door to Queanbeyan, though my route was via Latvia and Norway (not me personally, but my father and GGMother respectively...oh, so many brick walls, another reason I gave it up!) Many relevant gravestones in local cemetery, and some info in Library, but I never managed the trip over to look/photograph.

I think I'll just wait and see if anyone responds to this third-hand blather before getting further carried away. If anyone is interested, I can find some of the proper info online, and it might just be enough to make me finally get that hard drive looked at too!

Cheers all,
Ingrid

Susan Newton

8/10/2015 03:29:47 pm

Are there any records /photos of Bishopstone school from 1903 to 1911? My husbands great grandfather was headmaster there then. He was Isaac William Newton. I have found his address on the 1911 census as School House, Pitts, Bishopstone, Saliabury and, through your site, his daughter Alicia's baptism.

Dot Gurd link

10/10/2015 11:43:33 am

Hello Susan. The school records are kept at the Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre in Chippenham and are available there for research. If you go to the website www.discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk and run a search for - Bishopstone school, Wiltshire - you will see the references for them. Make sure you select records for Bishopstone (St John) rather than Bishopstone (St Mary) in their index. There are two Bishopstones in Wiltshire. 'Ours' in the south has St John the Baptist Church and the Bishopstone in the north of the county near Swindon has St Mary's Church. Also in the results the 'Bishopstone (Highworth)' school is in north Wilts and is not connected to our village. If you are unable to visit the Centre yourself you might be able to get someone to look at the records for you. When I go to the Centre I take digital photos of all the records I want. It is quicker than taking notes and I then have them to refer to whenever I want. A researcher acting on your behalf might agree to do this for you. This method might also give you images of your great grandfather's hand written notes. I have a picture of the school and school house taken in the early 20th century and will to send it to you via the Bishopstone website organiser who will have your email address. Best wishes, Dot Gurd (Online Parish Clerk for Bishopstone, Wilts)

Susan Newton

13/10/2015 09:23:50 pm

Thank you so much, Dot. We will be up the M4 from Wales to visit the History Centre in Chippenham soon and would loved to have the picture of the school. Regards Susan

Brahms, Bernd-Volker

18/1/2016 09:23:45 am

Hello,

I´m looking for informations about Arthur Kenneth Jones who lieved in Bishopsstone untill his death in January 1975. He was a great badminton player and won the All England Open in 1925 in Men´s doubles. I want to know the exact date and place of birth an his day of death. And what about his wife(s) and maybe children?

Kind regards from a badminton enthusiast from germany

Dorothy Gurd

19/5/2016 04:28:17 pm

Hello Bernd-Volker
I am sorry it has taken so long to reply to your note.
Arthur Kenneth Jones was born on 7th September 1887 in Southampton, Hampshire
He was buried on 5 February 1975 at Bishopstone, Near Salisbury, Wiltshire. He was survived by his wife Florence Janetta Jones

The parents of Arthur Kenneth Jones
Arthur Ernest Jones married Louisa Crowther in the June Quarter of 1884 - in Kingston Registration District, Surrey

Arthur Ernest Jones was a Master Mariner who gained his Second Mate's Certificate on 10th March 1874. His date of birth was given as 18 July 1853 at Tottenham, Middlesex
He gained his First Mate's Certificate on 10th January 1878

Arthur Ernest Jones does not appear on the censuses with the family and one child was born in Cape Colony (now South Africa). An 'Arthur E Jones' is recorded as being awarded a Boer War Campaign Medal for service in Cape Colony, Transvaal and Orange Free State with the 'Imperial Yeomanry Scouts' - Imperial Military Railways
He died in August 1906 aged 53, in Kingston on Thames, Surrey and was buried on 21 August in the churchyard of the parish church.

In 1911 the family were living in Kingston on Thames and Arthur Kenneth was working as a Bank Clerk.
1911 Census Kingston on Thames, Surrey
20 Alexandra Road
1.Louisa Jones; Head; 53; Widow; 6 children (all living); b. Thames Ditton: British Subject
2.Eleanor Crowther; Sister; 69; Single; b. Streatham: British Subject
3.Arthur Kenneth Jones; Son; 23; Single; Bank Clerk; b. Southampton: British Subject
4.Shirley Jones; Daughter; 22; Single; Secretary; b. Southampton: British Subject
5.Mary E Jones; Daughter; 17; Single; b. Cape Colony: British Subject
6.Elsie V Jones; Daughter; 14; b. Kingston Hill: British Subject
7.Minnie Berry; 24; Single; General Servant; b. Kingston Hill: British Subject

Arthur Kenneth Jones was married twice
His first marriage
Marriage June 22 1915 St Peter's Church, Norbiton, Surrey
Arthur Kenneth JONES; age 27; Bachelor; Bank Clerk; living in Norbiton; father's name - Arthur Ernest Jones (deceased) - a Master Mariner
Olive Prudence WITHERIDGE; age 28; Spinster; living in Cromwell House, Kingston Hill, Surrey; father's name - Edmund Witheridge (deceased) - Retired
[Olive P Jones died in the June Quarter 1925 in the Croydon Registration District of Surrey aged 38

His second marriage
Marriage June Quarter 1937 North East Surrey Registration District to Florence Janetta SCORER
Children of the marriage
Priscilla J Jones - born September Quarter of 1940 Surrey NE Registration District (Volume 2a Page 137)
Janetta E Jones born March Quarter of 1942 Surrey NE Registration District (Volume 2a Page 105)

Arthur Kenneth Jones served in the Royal Navy Reserve from:
25 June 1915 Temporary Assistant Paymaster on HMS President
16 July 1915 Assistant Paymaster - Royal Navy Reserve
He was still in the Royal Navy Reserve (rank of Paymaster Sub Lieutenant) in January 1919

I hope this information is useful. With best wishes, Dorothy Gurd.
[Online Parish Clerk for Bishopstone, Wiltshire]

Veronica Johnson link

11/3/2016 11:22:37 am

Hi. Wonder if you can help me please I am researching my maternal grandmother, She was born in London her father on her Birth certificate named as Robert Wentworth possibly B.1846 or 1849 abt. Bishopstone.It then becomes very confusing as I come across a Stephen Fowler Wentworth. B.1821abt. Bishopstone. They being Basket Makers or Watercress cultivators.
Is it possible for you to put any light on the subject and whether there was a name change at all. I would be very much obliged if you are able to. Or if anybody in Bishopstone is related.
I found your site very interesting. Thank you. Veronica.

Dorothy Gurd

20/5/2016 05:04:05 am

Hello Veronica. I apologise for the delay in replying to your note. A 'gremlin' in the works resulted in the website not automatically notifiying me that your messages had been posted! Having looked at the censuses for the Wentworth family, I see that they were connected to the village of Bishopstone in north Wiltshire which is near Swindon, not 'our' Bishopstone which is in the south of the county near Wilton and Salisbury. In the Censuses when the family are in Bishopstone, look at the top of the image of the Census page. It will show that the village is in the District of Highworth and Swindon. If you go to the Wiltshire Online Parish Clerk website at www.wiltshire-opc.org.uk/ and look up the parish of Bishopstone (Swindon) you will see that the OPC for the village is John Pope. There is an email link on the village page, where you to send him a message. I hope he can help you and that you manage to find Robert Wentworth's family. Best wishes, Dorothy Gurd [OPC - Bishopstone (Wilton]

Neil Midgley

18/10/2016 09:52:24 am

In the immediate post war period the Swedish Government supplied 2,444 prefabricated homes(Historic England figure) to Britain, some houses, some dormer bungalows. They were erected in mainly rural areas. I was brought up in one in Pool-in-Wharfedale, Yorkshire. I am now trying to list all the locations of these homes and whether they survive. I know of some in Wiltshire already (eg Shalbourne) but understand there may be some in Bishopstone. I would appreciate any information on this (or any other known location). Thankyou

hilary jones

30/10/2016 01:01:19 am

looking for Stevens family from Broad Chalke:
James & wife Jane (dob 1788) & their 8 children

Jane was sentenced to transportation in late 1831, she was 44 & stated her husband & 8 children were living in Broad Chalke at that time

Jonathan Stevens

22/3/2018 11:08:24 pm

Dear Hilary,
Are you researching James Stevens who married Jane Gould in Broadchalke? I have most of the information about Stevens in that parish and hopefully I can help you.
With all good wishes,
Jonathan Stevens

Kerry Anne Merry

25/3/2017 04:16:53 am

Hi Mike,

Just found your Blog and have been reading with interest. I would love to be put in touch with both Susan Robinson and Ingrid Lamberts, would you be so kind as to pass my email address to them?
It is also good to know that Dorothy is available to help with further enquiries.

I too am interested in the 57 emigrants who left Bishopstone in 1838 to settle in NSW; so far I have established a relationship to over half of the emigrants. my family interest is in the Gibbs and Case families, but have been researching the descendants of all the immigrants and building their histories and family trees.

As to Maria Mussell, yes she was amongst the immigrants and travelled with the family of John & Hannah Harwood and is understood to be the wife of Thomas Case who travelled with his sister's family; I am descended from another sister, Susanna and her husband John Gibbs.

The other Thomas Case was their 2nd cousin and he travelled with his wife Elizabeth (nee Ings) having already married in Bishosptone on 27th February 1837.

I have built an extensive tree of the families, both in Bishopstone and NSW and would be happy to answer any queries.

It is great to find people with an interest in the Bishopstone area. When I travelled there in 1999 I made enquiries as to interested people, but to no avail. However, the warden of St John's kindly showed us around and provided a copy of the "List of 1838 Emigrants" which still resided in the Church Register. I cherish that document and have circulated it widely amongst my contacts on Australia.

Looking forward to exchanging information.

Ingrid Lamberts

25/4/2017 11:19:12 pm

Hi KerryAnne,

I did get your message a few weeks ago but I'm 'between computers' so don't have access to all my research right now. I wonder if we've been in touch before? I certainly have seen your name come up as a source in other Case people's trees. Anyway.

I don't have anything to add to the question of Aboriginal heritage in the family (but like you and Dyon am most intrigued to find out more - I hope Dyon can see this too, the comments here have me kinda confused...) But what I wondered was if anyone has visited Queanbeyan cemetery and/or library. I've known about the existence of a Case File in the library for some years, but, despite living in Canberra, have been unable to get there to see it (boring health issues) or the cemetery. I still plan to get there sometime, but when...?

Best to all,
Ingrid

Kerry Anne Merry

26/4/2017 12:49:17 pm

Hi Ingrid,

Yes I think we have exchanged info in the past, but I too have had my share of computer gremlins and have lost some of my extensive lists of family researchers.

I am getting ready to go overseas mid June so most probably won't have a lot of time to spend on the Case family till I return. But certainly the question of aboriginality is a question worth answering. Not sure who can see this post; like you I'm trying to come to terms with it.

Till later,
Kerry

SANDRA STEFFENSEN

23/8/2018 12:11:51 am

Hi Kerry,
I am one of the descendants of the immigrants who left Bishopstone in 1838. Abraham & Sarah Andrews migrated to Singleton NSW with their 3 children. They had been married at ST John the Baptist Church 20 September,1829. Sarah was formerly Sarah Gibbs. My family tree in Australian is the Sutton Family being descended from Jane Andrews who was the first child of Abraham & Sarah. My husband and I are hoping to travel to Bishopstone late September or October this year (2018) to view historical areas of family history. Regards Sandra Steffensen

Kerry Anne Merry

25/3/2017 05:08:40 am

Hi all,

Just spent a lovely afternoon avoiding the housework and reading the archives.

For Chris & Kerry I do have a marriage for William Lanham & Ann Loxly on 10th April 1721 at St Marys Wilton.

Sorry not researched by myself, but aquired from rellies in the UK.
Hope this helps,
Kerry Anne Merry

Dyon Corby

24/4/2017 12:08:03 pm

Maria Elizabeth Muzzlewhite , 1816 - 1891 (75 years) John Mussell & Mary Percy as her parents .Maria Marries Thomas Case of Wiltshire, England Travels to Australia. Yes I understand this... but now Maria has her second child [ one of 11] at Carcoar N.S.W and then Baptised at Queanbeyan, New South Wales 1845. Her name Louisa Sophia Case , she would go on to marry George William Wise of Middlesex, England. who would die at Adelong . NOW the real question Louisa and I guess one or two of her siblings were of Aboriginal decent???How??? is it possible for some one to enlighten me please?? Thanks

Kerry Anne Merry

24/4/2017 09:49:43 pm

Hi Dyon,

Your question has me stumped. First time I have heard of Aboriginality in the Case Family, do have a Chinese connection in another branch up near Inverell.

Would be interested in looking over your indicative material and sorting the issue.

Cheers
Kerry

Dyon

25/4/2017 12:12:05 pm

After much digging, a account by a Austin Penny father described a then Louisa Sophia Wise as a large quite dark woman. My great aunt also recalls that Susan Case, Hargraves as a dark lady as so with the next generation Louisa's child Maria Wise /Crampton/Tasker. Sister Emily wise/White was described as a half cast
This is also the case with Thomas &Henry Wise who where of Aboriginal decent as well.......... Great Aunt saw them after school at Spring Creek at Young almost all suffered with glaucoma. I wold welcome any help in how this Glaucoma . I would welcome any input into how this Aboriginal influence came to be..... Thanking you Kerry

Kerry Anne Merry

25/4/2017 10:08:37 pm

Hi Dyon,

Quite a puzzle. I have a photo of my Susan (Case) Gibbs and she is certainly not a traditional English person; however I have never heard any comments that she was of dark skin. I'll have to direct this question to a few other Case researchers who may have a few clues.
Send me a message and I'll email my photo taken about 1850. kerry@coldstream-plantation.com.au
Cheers Kerry

Robert O'Toole

8/5/2017 05:15:33 pm

My Grandfather was Sidney Rowden who was dairyman at Croucheston. The farm owner was John Wort. Grandmother's name was Kathleen nee Frampton. My grandparents lived in a thatched cottage not far from the farm. My Mother Winifred Verdune Joyce was the oldest of 7 children with Irene (known as Edna), Stanley, Hazel, Lilian, Hermione (known as Maureen), Marlene and Veronica (known as June). Greatgrandads name was Henry Rowden and greatgrandma was Elizabeth nee Ford.
I have some photos which I can send if of interest.

BRIAN Hurst

15/1/2018 06:48:24 pm

Hello Dot,
I wonder if you can give me any information regarding my grandparents and past family who lived on The Green near Croucheston mill. My grandfather was Thomas Everett and my grandmother was Doris who originally came from Hull. I believe my family lived in Bishopstone for many many years but have no information. I remember as a child spending fabulous holidays with my grandparents and recall how idyllic and unspoilt the beautiful village was in the 1950-60’s. I have fond memories of the characters we got to know when my parents took us to the Three Horse Shoes and of course the White Hart. Reading some of the above reminds me of these lovely people such as the Drapers, Hadlams, Wort’s, Moodys shop, Miss Metcalfe and the Actons who were my grandparents neighbours, just to name a few, happy happy times but would love to know more. My wife and I are coming down this month to spend a few days in the village and surroundings and for me personally take a trip down memory lane.
If anyone can help with any information it wo7ld be appreciated.

Kind regards

Brian Hurst

Dot Gurd

17/4/2019 04:17:28 am

Hello Brian. I have only just come across your message, having not received the automatic notification that I should get! I grew up in Bishopstone and knew all the families you mentioned. I lived near Tom Everett's son and his family in the 50s and 60s and I believe Tom's daughter in law is still living there.If you are still interested, let me know what information you need about the Everett family and I will try to help. Best wishers, Dot Gurd

Brian Hurst

20/4/2019 07:08:44 am

Hi Dot,
Thank you for getting back to me. Tom Everett was my grandfather and his son whom you lived near, were my Uncle Terry and Auntie Margret. They lived with my two cousins David & Mark in Whitlock Rise which my grandfather eventually spent the last few years of his life living in the bungalows at the bottom of Whitlock, next to Phil Dimmer who I recall was a Thatcher? Our family unfortunately, as are plenty of others fairly dysfunctional so we all struggled to keep in contact. My mother was Toms eldest daughter Jean, sister of Dawn, Robin and Terry. I am trying to gather more family info about my grandmother (Toms wife) who sadly died when I was fairly young, I believe she used to be a nurse at old Sarum hospital during WW1 and originally came from Hull? I think her name was Doris but of course we only knew her as grandma. I would also like to find more info on my great grandparents who lived on the Green in Bishopstone and my great uncles and auntie. Can you point me in the direction if possible, your help would be appreciated.
I hope this finds you well and thank you for your reply.

Kindest Regards

Brian Hurst

Grant South

18/1/2019 07:04:43 am

Hi,

I have ancestors from Bishopstone.
Some of the family names are;
Baker
Potter
Bell
Lanham (back to 1624)
Harwood (back to 1629)

Hoping to connect with related family researchers.
With best wishes,
Grant

Kristin Wickens

12/4/2019 01:03:43 am

Hi
I am posting this in the hope that I can connect with someone who is interested in the following people who are listed in the 1861 Census as living in the same household in Bishopstone.

George Day (aged 40) a dealer in yeast. Born Bishopstone
Elizabeth Hopkins (aged 34), housekeeper and seamstress. Born Bath
Elizabeth Hopkins (aged 12), house servant. Born Bath

The relationships in the household are interesting. In 1865, a child named Georgina was born to one of the Elizabeths, then in 1866 they all migrated to New Zealand and on board another child was born, who was my great grandmother (Reine Hopkins). It is unclear which Elizabeth was the mother of these children and whether or not the father was George Day.

If anyone can shed any light on this I would love to hear from you.
Best wishes
Kristin Wickens

Dorothy Gurd

17/4/2019 03:58:59 am

Hello Kristin
Firstly I need to explain that there are two villages in Wiltshire named Bishopstone. This Blog is for Bishopstone in south Wiltshire (near Salisbury). Unfortunately, the Bishopstone you need is the one situated in north Wiltshire (near Swindon). This is confirmed by the baptism record of Georgina on 20th January 1865 at St Mary's Church Bishopstone, daughter of Elizabeth. The Ancestry.com image of the actual baptism register page is at https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/61188/45582_1831109331_1312-00048?pid=466753&treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=zgC7&_phstart=successSource
No father's name is given
If you buy a copy of her birth certificate from the General Register Office you may get a father's name and might be given the age of the mother, which will identify which Elizabeth was the mother. Often in the case of illegitimate children fathers weren't identified. Go to the GRO website at https://www.gov.uk/order-copy-birth-death-marriage-certificate
Enter the following details on the application page - Georgina Hopkins, Registered Highworth Registration District, Wiltshire, Volume 5a, Page 12
I hope this helps. Best wishes, Dot Gurd

Kristin Wickens

18/4/2019 01:33:15 am

Hi Dot
I am very pleased to get your email explaining that there are 2 Bishopstones in Wiltshire. Last year when I was in England I briefly visited what turns out to be the wrong one!

Thank you for the baptism record for Georgina (daughter of Elizabeth Hopkins). I had already acquired the birth record from the GRO but the father is not named and neither is the age of Elizabeth given.

Any other suggestions about how I can get more information about this "family" would be very welcome.

Kind regards
Kristin Wickens

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